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Old 01-25-2012, 02:42 PM
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JRDIII do you have any new updates on your motor?
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:17 PM
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Not really. The shop went ahead and ordered a new carb from Suzuki, under the warranty. I called them today to ask what was taking so long, so they called Suzuki and Suzuki told them the carb has been shipped. Should be here Thursday or Friday. Assuming they replace the carb and it works, it won't really help pinpoint what the problem was. Maybe I can get them to do an autopsy on the old carb.
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:58 PM
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It is good news that they are replacing the carburator. But it might not solve what the problem was like you said. I hope this works for you, If it dosent solve the problem I will order the #66 main jet so I will have it ready when I run off the fogging oil. I will have to follow up on maybe it is a jetting issue. It is still a little too cold here to work on it here. Thanks for the update.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:19 PM
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JRDIII read this from another site

Suzuki or me. Who's right? 2.5hp

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Old 01-25-2012, 10:35 PM
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I actually saw that thread during a Google search a couple of weeks ago. Doesn't seem to bode well for my prospects of getting this resolved. I'm going to make darn sure the motor is working properly before it leaves the shop. I'm convinced it's a jet problem, and not a problem with fuel. I think the factory jet setting is too small, but then I'm no expert. Hopefully the new carb will do the trick.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:49 AM
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i read the link and W O W , holy crap it sounds like a messed up design for sure but to run good when dry the not after it gets gas sitting in it?

not to mention the dying situation is a big red flag of more issues

cant believe they sell untested motors because this was obviously not run through trial tests or the issues would have been found.
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Old 01-29-2012, 09:57 PM
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Update:

The marine shop called Friday and said I could pick up the motor. I had been hounding them all week about what was taking so long, and I told them I had planned to go fishing this weekend in my new boat. So when I got there Friday afternoon they said I could take it with me but they needed me to bring it back as soon as I could. Huh? They said they installed the new carb and tuned it, but that Suzuki still wanted them to make one last adjustment they hadn't had time to do. They said it would run fine for my fishing trip and that they had worked double time to get it back to me before the weekend so I could go fishing, but I still needed to bring it back.

I wish they had told me before I drove up there. I used the fishing outing as a way to put some pressure on them, but I'd have cancelled it to save myself a trip. Oh, well. I appreciate the effort, but I really didn't want to have to drive all the way back up there to drop it off, and then again to pick it up. Nice guys, though.

When I got there Friday they had the motor on a stand with the prop in a tank. It started right up. The first thing I noticed was that it was idling a good bit higher than when I had brought it in. The shop manager said he thought the company I bought it from never tested or adjusted it before shipping. I figured that to be the case because it came in a box that looked like it had not been opened since leaving Japan. He said the idle was way too low when I brought it in, and the idle is actually supposed to be set pretty high.

When I asked the manager why I had to bring it back, he said Suzuki wants them to make an adjustment to the pilot jet. When I asked him to be more specific he said they want him to replace the pilot jet with a slightly larger one. So I asked if that would be a 66, but he said, no, they want him to replace the size 32 with a 33. So, Symore, I don't know if this is the same jet you were talking about, but the factory setting appears to be different from what you mentioned. He definitely called it the "pilot" jet. He said Suzuki knows that the factory jet may be a bit lean, but they set it the way they do for emissions reasons. Suzuki told him there's no recall but they are tweaking the jets on a case-by-case, as-needed basis.

Anyway, the throttle seemed to work fine now with the new carb, both in neutral and in gear. No problem accelerating. So, I paid for the oil they had replaced (the new carb was warranty) and took it with me. Today, I put it on my brand new Zodiac Zoom SIB and took it out on the 350-acre lake where I like to fish. It was my first time using the new boat, so it wasn't until I got the boat in the water that I realized the transom is really low. When I put the motor on, the anti-cavitation plate was a good three or four inches under water. The motor pushed the boat pretty well, much better than it pushed my old Sea Eagle. But the transom definitely needs a shim, and I think the 2.5 will run even better if I can get the prop a little higher in the water. It never seemed to max out on rpm, even at full throttle. Full throttle sounded to me like three-quarters throttle. I think it was because the prop was so low it was putting more load on it. I'll work on that. Great day on the water, anyway, and in the end I'm glad I got my fishing trip in after all.

I'll try to take the motor back to the shop sometime this week, and I'll update when I get it back with the new jet.
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Old 01-30-2012, 11:42 AM
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JRDIII that is great news, I am glad its running right for you now. Getting back to the jetting issue. There are more than one jet in your carb. My guess is Suzuki is aware of this problem and the replacement carb now has the #66 main jet in it. The pilot jet(controls the fuel at idle to about 1/4 throttle)is #32 and the next size up would be #34 not #33. I will start with the pilot jet and see what affect it has on idle to 1/4 throttle. It might overlap the main enough to give it enough fuel. Thank you for this information about your motor and when I work on replacing my jet or jets I will post my results.This thread will help others in understanding why this motor runs bad out of the box. So my theory is a #66 main jet and or a #34 pilot jet is the solution. Again this is just my theory and I will try it and post my results. Another guess I have about you bringing it back to the shop is so they can do a spark plug reading to see if it is running rich enough. Good luck to you with your new boat and now a nice running motor,lol.

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Old 02-05-2012, 01:16 PM
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After calling different Suzuki marinas I gave up going that route. Called a Suzuki atv center and they were able to order the jets for me. While waiting for the jets to come in I removed the carb and took the two jets out and everything appeared clean. Now on the one side of the carb there are two tin plugs, the top one being smaller than the bottom one. I removed these plugs to find a idle mixing screw in the top one. The bottom one is a chamber for gas to go through and should not be removed unless it needs to be cleaned out. I could not find a replacement plug on the internet. What I did was find a stainless steel screw with a head that find in the hole and cut the head of the screw off. I than used some jb weld on the screw head to seal in the hole so gas would not leak out. Works but it is now permanently sealed. Installed a #66 main and #34 pilot jet in the carb and installed the carb back on the motor. Started the motor and let it warm up than adjusted the idle mixture screw. It idled best at 2 turns out and is within the perimeters of the pilot jet so it did need the bigger jet. Also I put some rtv silicone in the hole over the screw after it was adjusted to seal it. Now for the results of the jets. I ran it in a 5 gallon bucket and it still hesitates when chopping the throttle real fast but opening the throttle normally it runs real smooth through the rpms. This still needs to be tested under a load in gear but so far it is showing much improvement and still has the original spark plug in it. So if it doesn't foul the new spark plug under load it appears to be a much improved running motor.

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